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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 9:00 pm    Post subject: Anti-Gravity, Lifter style Reply with quote

Idea This has long been a passion of mine, and now there are simple experiments that you can do to replicate this effect.

No you don't need a room temperature super conductor (although that would do it...) an absolute zero lab, or ceramic magnets. All you need is some aluminum foil, balsa wood, and a High Voltage power source.

JL Naudin's lifter site is where I heard of doing this first. Since then a number of anti gravity, specifically lifter related sites have sprung up. American Anti Gravity



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Cute little things aren't they? Check out Naudins site, they've got some real monsters.

The stunning thing about these is that the amount of wattage required to lift the object is relatively small. for the lifter picture above, at a weight of 2.3g, the required wattage to compensate the weight is only 18 watts (40 KV @ 450 uA) To achieve steady flight with a 1g payload, the total required is onlt 23.9 watts (41.9 KV @ 570 uA) quite remarkable no?

I had to experiment with this technology! I soon built a homebrew HV PS (High voltage Power Supply) out of an old ignition coil with the high voltage tripler out of an old TV.
My lifter looks just like the one in that picture, no picture of mine yet, because it is sitting in storage currently.

The first mistake I made was using bass wood, instead of balsa, they look and feel very similar. The bass is much heavier thoug, and pretty soon my output set fire to the uprights. ~Back to the drawing board~

Started again, this time with balsa, and, bang! It flew. I was so surprised, because after the bass wood, I didn't even tie it down figuring it wasn't going to go... Tie it down! When it goes, it goes! I managed to get the PS safely (enough) turned off, and this time tethered the thing down. I floats like a dream, with just a light buzzzz.... Wink heh way to much fun!

There is an amazing purple/blue corona between the two conducting plates within the airspace. It can be seen in daylight, but the real kicker is with the lights off. It really looks like a purple force field Smile

You must research this technology yourself, if you truly want to appreciate it's virtues. JLN labs, has a varity of homebrew PS designs that can be made from readily availiabe parts, and components. He also has simple how-to's on the subject. If I get the time, I will put up one of my own. Cool

That's all for this edition of Anti Gravity research,

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know, our inventors club is looking to hire a bus to raise publicity and do free advice clinics in London. It would be very nice indeed to have something crowd pulling - we have Mike Keanan with his heat proof invention, where he coats his hand with his chemical grease and it stops all the heat from a blow torch getting through (trust me, its for real and it really is incredible when you see it) - but it would be great also to have a couple of anti-gravity devices powered off the site generator! What do I need to build one, and is their a long build time in terms of parts?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A very simple version can be built quite easily. All that's required as far as parts goes is some aluminum foil, balsa wood, and a high voltage power source greater than 20KV.

Naudin's how to build page is located here http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/lftbld.htm

If you're looking for something bigger and more eye catching, check out the Maximus II http://jlnlabs.imars.com/lifters/maximus2/index.htm It packs a whopping 190g of weight and 60 grams of payload 250g total, it is quite a sight. And for only 297 watts!

You can find all the "enhanced" projects here http://jnaudin.free.fr/lifters/enhanced.htm

And of course the entire site is located at http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/lftbld.htm

If you do use and replicate one of these things, please post some pictures of it. (I finally got around to fixing the attachment feature) Always love to see high voltage in action.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many thanks. The bus has been delayed so that gives some time. When the units fly, how susceptible would they be to wind?

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It truly depends on the output from the power supply you have available. The more power and less weight, the harder that charged capacitor is going to push to the positive side, hopefully up.

For outdoor, and indoor use actually, the unit must be tied down ot tethered down to keep it from flying out to the extent of your voltage leads. If the power source was light enough, or the wattage high enough the power supply could be mounted on board. Now that's a pretty cool radio controlled aircraft!

You would likely have much problem with a radio controlled circuit however due to the broadband interference of the high voltage.

Check out http://www.americanantigravity.com/lifter4-outdoor.html to see American Anti-Gravities outdoor work.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 11:13 pm    Post subject: TT Brown Patent Reply with quote

I have posted to .pdf files of the original patents behind this device. The patent is issued to a fellow by the name of Thomas Townsend Brown.

I thought this might be of help to anyone trying to reproduce these things, or at least understand the principles behind them.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fantastic. I want one!

You know, if they can fly quite readily outdoors, they could be great for marketing, and that boosts their proffile too .......

Our bus project has been put back a few months so about February. That gives us some time. TT Brown was one of those total unsung geniuses. I think he did a lot in connection with military work as well. Perhaps a TT Brown commemorative kite! He should be remembered.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 12:46 am    Post subject: Raising the profile on simple "anti-gravity" machi Reply with quote

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You know, if they can fly quite readily outdoors, they could be great for marketing, and that boosts their profile too .......


I utterly agree. I can imaging one the size of a bus, hovering above the masses of amazed people. That would truly be fantastic.

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I think he did a lot in connection with military work as well.


I believe you are right. As far as I know they were well aware of his tests and patents. All patents in the US anyway are up for grabs by the good ol Gov. first. The DOD definately falls into the category that routinely "aquires" rights to a variety of patents.

Asbolutly right, we should remember TT Brown. I havn't really looked to see if there are any educational institutions, museums etc. with displays about him. I rather doubt it however, he seems to be on the outer edges of occult science. for lack of a better term. Like you mentioned a "commemorative kite" or maybe lifter kit would be just the thing to get his name out to the next generations of scientists, leaders and of course inventors!


I hope you have great luck with your display Alan. Let us know how it goes.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


The Gyro experiment!
Very Happy

I'm out to build one such gadet, the same principle, different machine.

It boils down to this -

A Gyro system turning that way will go up a 1/4 turn, then down, then up, then down...

The trick would be to make the thing go allways up! Cool

Don't know if this Brown colleague done it- Never thought involving electromagnetic stuff into it! Shocked

But mine of course, will fly... One day! Laughing

On a different machine, that won't lift but works on water, see this little invention of mine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfQKGdADevA
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uh-ho! Embarassed

Just seen the thing, my mistake, this is not the Gyro engine!

In the gyro engine, the turning arms turn gyros, not electro-magnetic disks!

Ah, well... Confused

Guys, in my humble opinion, there's only interest on stuff that can at least do as well as an Helicopter.

And since these suckers don't need any propeliing blades, they're the perfect Aircar thrust!

No good making Orbit lifters, the Fat Cats would take over...

And for off-orbit engines, the Patent's coverage will not apply!
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